Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: 20 in the city.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: Aloha.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Duh. I really wish she was wrong on that one, but I don't y', all, I don't.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: That was not. That was not a good look for me.
[00:00:10] Speaker A: Y' all missed.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: That was not a good look.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: Struggling, needed some cheese.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Regular cheese and crackers killing me.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: I couldn't tell if he was praying. We was getting thinking.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: I was doing both.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Well, you know what? You look good while you was over there struggling.
[00:00:26] Speaker B: Oh yeah, you like that?
[00:00:27] Speaker A: You like that shirt?
[00:00:28] Speaker B: That's the second shirt.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: This is my first shirt.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: I got my name on the back.
I couldn't turn all the way.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Sorry, man. I fell asleep with this song. I was wearing it in my sleep one time.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Is that comfy? Yeah, that's good.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: These are nice.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: You could get yourself one. You could actually get a custom shirt. We're going for 15k. Hit the like and just subscribe. We giving out a full merch set, hat, short sleeve, long sleeve hoodie, and a custom shirt of your choice with your name on it. Because why without y', all, we can't be doing this. Yes, sir. I got excited. I know you will too.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: You kept saying that by. When we was walking in the studio, you was just sitting there going, man, oh, I want this one. I'm waiting.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: I was waiting for this generation.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Okay, okay, like this, this current generation, this current generation, okay.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: They are wanting malls to make a comeback. They want to revamp them. They want the interactions of being at a mall.
So I want to know if they are going to bring malls back. What are the must haves for it to be classified as a mall?
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Nothing.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: What?
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Nothing. I don't want none of them to do it. I don't want them to bring stuff back. You know what? I'm tired of these generations taking off stuff from back in the days because they didn't have it. And they've seen how much fun we was having it and they gonna bring. Because you know what? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They're gonna turn it into what they want. It's not gonna look like ours.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: It's not.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: It's not gonna look like ours. It's not gonna function like ours did back in the day. It's not gonna be like the way we had stuff back in the day. You're not gonna have that girl making lemonade and hot dog on a stick when you walked in and you can hear a pound little thing.
Would you like a hot dog now? I'm good.
Like it's all that stuff is gone.
[00:02:03] Speaker A: But if we could.
That's one. That's one thing.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: You gotta have the requirement. Yeah. There's. There's so many required as far as like people that are from malls. Like mall era kids, like the folks.
That's us. That's that we have.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: There's.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: We had guidelines and we had rules before we went to the mall.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: You couldn't just go to the mall because it was just.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Because it was something.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You could just go there because of that. I mean, you. There's certain requirements. Like you.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: So for me was a lot. I got my list.
Lemonade lady and what is her name? Auntie Annie's Pretzel.
Pretzel. Whatever her name is, you got to have her in there. You got to have a full, full court food court. I'm talking at least 10 spots. And you got to have your pretzel spot. You got to have a Chinese spot, pizza spot. To have a pizza spot. Yeah, you got to have. You got to have an ice cream spot.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: It don't matter. No matter what. But you gotta have one of those.
How you get the 10 then? You got, you got your, you got your burger spot, your hot dog spot. Which is which. Eliminate which.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Hot dog on a stick.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Hot dog on a stick. Yeah, you gotta have a corn dog spot.
But also for the food court area, I need to feel like I'm like at a tropical island. I need those fake tall trees that hit the ceiling, the palm tree thingies. I gotta, I got. I don't know why I gotta have that.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: Inside.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Inside. That's how you distinguish that. That was the food court area because I was always told to go stand
[00:03:32] Speaker B: by the plant, by the trees. By the trees, by the plants.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: So you gotta have that.
I need my ledger. As soon as I walk in, that giant ledger with three sides that tell you where each spot is and it's color coded and all of that.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: I need. I gotta have that because I was also a landmark to figure out where you gonna meet up at.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Okay.
If they do the malls back, if they bring them back, they. I think they need to start relocating some things.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Relocating?
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah, elevators.
I remember growing up, if you was. I remember growing up, if you was looking for an elevator, you had to actually go into a store. Like a. Yeah.
They never had them in the middle, like, and it was like, why don't you guys have them in the middle? Why do you making us go into these stores and use their elevators, bro?
[00:04:21] Speaker A: It's a. It's A marketing strategy.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: But you felt bad.
[00:04:24] Speaker B: But you felt bad cuz you would come down from like the tool section and you come down to the first day and you be down there and you walking through like lingerie and you like. I just was trying to go to the.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Why did God, they strategize that so crazily? They did. Yeah. You do got to put, you got to put the escalator in. The escalators were also not right.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Escalators weren't now, but see, escalators were like that. I don't know. To me that, that, that if they're going to do an escalator, you got to do side by sides, one going up, one coming down.
It's got to be pretty big because you got. It was like a. It was like models walking on a dance floor.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: You know, like models coming back and forth or models coming back and forth on the floor. Like when people went by each other, it looked like everybody was like striking poses and standing there. And some people were looking hard, some people was looking like if you. But that was what the escalators was for.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you can't just have one side that just goes up and see nowadays,
[00:05:14] Speaker B: see, back in the day, that's what we had when we went up the escalators. People had stances on the escalators. You put your hands on the thing.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Back. One time you do this, one time you do that. You look at other people when they combine, you get the head knob.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: Like what's up? They don't do that no more. Why? Because everybody on their phones, nobody cares. Everybody on the escalator. If you look at everybody on the escalator now, they're like this. Everybody's like this. That's why I don't think they deserve them all.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: They.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Because that's how they gonna be in the mall.
[00:05:41] Speaker A: Nah, they're going to be in the mall.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: They're going to be walking around like this the whole time.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: If you apply certain things. Okay, here's the other one. I need an arcade section. Oh and I'm not talking two or three games. Like you walk like if you walk in, you just look left and look right. Like you gotta be able to bend the corner and go in the back where the ping pong is and all of that.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: The slots, basketball hoops here.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: Oh, you got. Oh, you gotta have, you gotta have.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: Who's they in the back?
[00:06:05] Speaker A: What was that called? Papa shot. You gotta have that in there.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:08] Speaker A: It ain't an Arcade. If you ain't got Papa shot, or if you ain't got. You ain't got papa Shot, you ain't got the racing game.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: I challenge people to put up their arcades and make everything 25 cent.
Ooh, that's what I miss. I come down there with a roll of quarters and be there all day.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: All day, all day.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: The mall near us in Boise, they have an arcade section, but every time I walk past it, it's empty. And I look inside.
Everything costs at least a dollar to play those games.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta. If you want to make a profit, put. Put everything out of court. You'll catch kids, mid teens, adults. Oh, you'll catch. You'll catch people at 80 years old like me in there.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah. If you. 25 cents.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: 25 cent, you bring back. That's the old. That's the original price. If you look on an arcade game, what did it say on the outside where the slot was 2, 2, 5
[00:06:57] Speaker A: and the letter C with the slash.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: And it was either in.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: I always thought. And they were always all in yellow.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: I remember I. I'm. I'm. I'm old enough to remember walking into the arcade putting a quarter in.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: Right.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: And the screen started to say, insert more. Insert one more coin to continue. Insert one more. And I was like, wait a minute. It's supposed to be 25 cent. I remember when it switched and things started being 50 cent, and then like, 75 cents.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: Once you put a quarter in, it was good to go. Yeah. Then. Then it started adding it, like, add one more, add three more.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Only time I added more than one quarter to any machine at an arcade. Only time I ever did that is if the arcade machine offered me something more than just me standing in front of it.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: If there was one that I could sit in and it can move. There was a game called afterburner that I used to spend, and that was like 75 cents to play, but you actually got to sit in it. I don't know if anybody's ever seen the second.
I think it was Judgment Day. Terminator. The second Terminator. Yeah, movie. The second Terminator movie. They were in the arcade when the cop.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: He was sitting inside the afterburner video arcade game.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: That's.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: That's.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Now, you asked me for 75 cents more than a quarter. That's fine. You giving me an experience.
But if I'm just standing in front of the machine with just a joystick and buttons and you got the nerve to ask me to Put in a dollar.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: No.
[00:08:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. We got issues.
[00:08:17] Speaker A: I didn't like these in the mall.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: What's that?
[00:08:19] Speaker A: But I feel. But they made. They made it a mall.
The side. The. The in the middle kiosk stuff.
There's a problem?
[00:08:27] Speaker B: A little. Yeah. Why not?
[00:08:30] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: I don't know why.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: I just. I never.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: Were they in your way, walking from store to store?
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Maybe. I think probably as a kid, I wanted to cross through and I had to go around.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: I'm gonna tell you this. When I got out of the service, one of my jobs that I had the minute I got out, because I worked a lot of security. I was security at a mall.
At my mall. The mall that I used to go to growing up as a kid.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Yo, that's crazy.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: I was so, like, the mall in there. Like. Like, there was a lot of people that would complain because, like, in the. On certain days at the mall, you have the older folks that would come in, in the morning and do the laps.
[00:09:02] Speaker A: Their laps.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: And when they would do their laps, they would always complain to us security guards. Because people who were set up in the center of the mall was always in the way of a pathways. It was like I was trying to get my laps in. But the. The. The little helicopter was a kiosk.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Yeah, the kiosk. Yeah, the.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: All these little kiosk in there. And it's the ones that, like, I didn't like. The ones that, like, they put lotion on their hands and they try to walk up to come over here, come over here. I was like, you know, that's all
[00:09:29] Speaker A: the ones I had. That was all of them. It was. If it wasn't. It was not nothing I ever wanted. It was either lotion or it was trying to. Trying to give me fake Js, which. I don't know how they got into a mall to try to sell me a shoe when it's like, I got footlocker and finish line and champs like, you ain't gonna get me to buy a shoe.
[00:09:46] Speaker B: Right?
[00:09:46] Speaker A: Or if it was all. It was always the holidays, like, Valentine's Day. Oh, the kiosks were flooded with the jewelry and the flowers. It's like, I ain't come to the mall to get flowers.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah, when you said. But. Yeah, but when you say the kiosks during the holidays, like, when I. When the kiosks. When the holidays come out there, I'm. I'm kind of down there because that's when, like, the. You know, the. The Christmas. You know, the sausage and cheese packages and stuff like that.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: Okay, those were legit. Those are legit.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: The Hillshire Farms.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, those were legit.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: That were set up in the mall during. During, like Christmas time.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: Yeah, those were legit. Did your mall, aside from the food court, did you grow up with your mall having a restaurant?
[00:10:27] Speaker B: A restaurant?
[00:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
So, like, when we walk. When we walk into the main entrance of our mall, you walked in those two sets of double doors, and then to the right was a restaurant. Not. It was still a name brand restaurant, like an outback or something, but it was right there to the right. And then you could go straight and go to the.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: Was until later. But they put in a. I think it's a red robin. Yeah, they put a red robin on the theater side.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: That makes sense of the.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Of the. Of the mall. And then like, on the other side, there was a McDonald's that was inside. When you walked inside, there was like a McDonald's directly to the left. But, like, as far as sit down.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:08] Speaker B: Well, I mean, we had a red robin, but it was like, it wasn't. I mean, growing up, there was never a restaurant connected, but there was a restaurant in the parking lot of the mall because you had. You had stores that were open in the parking lot of them.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Oh, always.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: So, like, our mall. Our mall had a. Had a Sizzler. We had a Sizzler in the parking lot.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: We had Golden Corral. Yeah, I loved it. I could go get. Go get buff and get fat and then go to the mall and take a couple of laps like those older people. Yep. And then go home. It was a perfect setup. You got to have a restaurant either inside or, I think outside in the parking lot. Your parking lot got to be massive.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: You can't say it can't be Rinky Dink.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: And you said it earlier, you got to have a foot. Stuff you got to have. You got to have a shoe.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: Oh, you got to. You got to have at least three of them.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: You got.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: You got to have.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to have that one. Like you ever had that one where you like. You see all the shoes and they all different colors outside the window. But, like, the shoe store doesn't really have, like a name name.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Nope.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: And it just. All you see is just different shoes in the window.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: Did yours. Did that one store when you walked in had wood flooring?
[00:12:12] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: That.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: And you had somebody.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Why did they all have wood floors?
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah, somebody walk out and they selling you tennis shoes, but they wearing church shoes.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: Yes.
They tried to fake Fake busy.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: They had.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: They had a side phone and a phone in their hand at least to
[00:12:29] Speaker B: put at least a Foot Locker. It was wearing a referee shirt and some tennis shoes.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Oh, why did every one of those shoe spots have a. How the heck did you get wood floors in the mall? No other. No other store had wood floors, but the Sketchy shoe store had the wood floors.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: And there's.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: I don't know why.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: With no name.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: And every shoe store had their own way that everybody was dressed, presented himself, did all. Like. You had Foot Locker with the. With the referee shirts. And I'm gonna tell you something. Some people think it was the eye store that had all the lanyards and stuff on them. Like, no, Champs had that Champs. Champs had that on lockdown, Al.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: Because they. Because they were in the all dark blue finish line was like that light blue. Yeah, the light blue champs was that navy blue. Navy blue polo, navy blue pants, lanier with the lanyard. And your shoes were either all white or white navy blue.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Yep, yep.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Oh, I know. I know that outfit. Yeah, I never worked there, but.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: But that's what I'm saying. It's like some people, like, it was like, oh, the lanyard came from the ice stores. Like, no, it didn't know that that came from Champs. That was Champs back in the day, too. They was wearing that.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: And they on one side said Champs on the backside when they walked up.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: And they had their name and everything on there.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: It was clean.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Because back then, I mean, didn't nobody laminate nothing back in the 90s, no champs was clean.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: They were clean also. For me, it's in the middle.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: You gotta have a mini play area in the mall.
And it was us.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: And it was usually always by J.C. penney's or Sears. I don't know why. I mean, I know why it made sense. But it was always on the ends of one of those malls.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: Yep. Still is. Yeah, still is.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: You know this. They ain't never. They never had JCPenney's in series beside each other. They was always on the opposite end.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Yep. And you know what's funny? When I said when I was a security guard, that's what would happen. It would be like, yo, there's a fight. Where's it at? Searside or Macy's side.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: They used to Always special.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: You'd be like, what? You'd be like, where. Where does this happen? It's gonna happen that way. So we knew. Okay, run north.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Go down north.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Yep.
Even if you was meeting up with somebody you ever had to meet up with somebody at the bar? Where were you at? I'm in front of Mervyn's, yo. And they're like, I'm in front of Emporium Capwell.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: It's like, go towards the JC Penney side.
Or you use it as a reference, like, I'm at this store and be like, well, what big stores buy you? Sears.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: But big store, see, that's. That's another thing. Big store, little store. Yeah, that's that what big store is buy you.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: Well, the big stores also, they were. They had the two stores.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah, Macy's. They had the two floors.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: They had the two floors.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: I mean, yeah. Macy's, JCPenney, Sears and Dillard's.
[00:15:04] Speaker A: Dillard's. Those are the big four dealers.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: We had. We had Emporium Capwell.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: See, we had. It was Dillard's, Sears, JCPenney's, Macy's.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: We had Sears, JCPenney. We had Sears, J.C. penney's, Imperial Emporium, Capwell and Macy's. And. And we had Macy's and. And Montgomery Ward.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: Oh, see, Montgomery Ward. Montgomery Ward was never in a mall. It was always a standalone.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: Oh, no. In Virginia, it used to be in the mall, but it was kind of like the.
It was kind of like the. The big old tires that is set up in the mall parking lot.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: I got. Yup.
You ain't gotta say no more. If you know, you know. You ain't gotta say no more. That. That vision, dog. You ain't gotta say nothing else. That is a very vivid description, bro.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: You dang.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: I worked because it was always on the far again, it was beyond the big store.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Yep. But it was still a part of the mall.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: Part of the mall. We had to. As security guards, we had to patrol. That was like, this ain't part of us. Because it was in the mall. That's the whole parking lot. All that is the property. Yep.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: That's. Bro. That was so vivid. That was such a good description.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: Big old tires sitting in the middle of the parking lot.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Did yours used to sit by either, like, JCPenney's or Sears?
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Right outside of JCPenney.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Like, if you cross the parking lot from JCPenney. It was there. It was. It was closer to the sidewalk that was close to the street that would lead to the mall. Yes. Yeah.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: You sometimes would drive past that, depending on what area you need to get.
[00:16:36] Speaker B: In fact, I think if you was on the street and you turn left at that street light to come into the parking lot. You could turn right immediately and get. And be right there at that store. Yep.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: Dog, he said the Bengals outside in the mall park.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. They're not gonna do it, right? If they. If they open up a mall now and they try to bring it back, they go out of what. What are they basing on how they making the mall? I mean, are they using, like, stranger things to say this is what our reference is?
[00:17:01] Speaker A: No, you gotta. I'm hoping they have a millennial or a gin accent. You got, you got.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: It's not gonna happen.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: You got to. Because I'm mid-30s. You gotta have somebody in their 30s or late 40s that's gonna be in charge of it.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: It's never gonna stop, man. They're going from music to movies to malls now. Like, why they want all of our old.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Or you know what? They go make it, there'll be plenty of us that's going to go and complain and they'll fix it.
Because if you tell me a mall is coming back, I'm going. But I am going. And I'm going to be checking boxes.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: My thing is. My thing is, is that if you go make a mall, right? Like, if you go make a mall, right? This is. And this is my whole thing about it is, like, I don't. I want it to look like we done advanced in time. I don't want it to look like it still look back in the day. If I wanted it to look like it looked back in the day. Like, why.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Okay, but do you.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: I wanted. I want to walk through a mall today, and I want to be like, you know, you got holographic stuff happening. You got. You got free WI fi when you walk in, you got stuff.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Free WI fi be nice.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Stuff that is, like, you know, stuff that is. Is. Is telling me that we're in 20, 26.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: That's what I.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: When I preference the things that I want in the mall.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: I don't want the 2000 version of it. I want. I want the modified. Like, you got. You got to have an arcade, but the arcade can be looking 21st.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: But I mean, but I mean, like, it's. That's it. That's what it's not. It's not going to do that. It'.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: It.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: You. You're not gonna have that in the style. I don't like. I remember how my mall was, and as much as I loved how it was and stuff like that, I wanted it to advance as well.
Like, I wanted it to be dope. I wanted it to be cool. You know, it was like, okay, I like that we have a food court here, but maybe if we had something else, you know, maybe if there was an aquarium built in around something, you couldn't have it. But that's what I'm saying. I think if they're gonna do a mall, they should make it look more advanced. Stop going nostalgia. Stop being. Making every restaurant look like it's the 50s. Stop making this stuff do that. Nah, man.
2026. Why. Why can't it look like that? Is we in 2026?
[00:19:01] Speaker A: You know who, if they do malls, you know who they need to get a hold of?
The owners of shields.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: Because especially the shields here.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: Now they can. You can, you can get a good visual how to make it 21st century.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: And still make it. They. That shields looks like it feels like a mall.
[00:19:21] Speaker B: See, stores like that gonna kill. Malls too, though.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: But like you said, if you at least keep up with the times, you're gonna be set.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: And that's what I want to feel. I want to feel like that. Like. Okay, like when you, you mentioned shields, right? You mentioned shields. You walk into Shields and like there are certain parts in there that feels nostalgic. There's like the, the place, the, the little corral where you shoot the little gun and stuff like that. Gives a little nostalgic feel. But then when you go and you see the real guns, you actually walk into this futuristic glass room where the doors slide. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I want it to be. No, I don't think they would do that with them all. I think they would just take, you
[00:19:58] Speaker A: know, you don't want our little push, push, pull doors.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Oh, no, I'm done with that. I'm done with stuff that we used to have back in the day. The little drain that you trip on when you walk in. Because. Because, because the brick. The brick is all uneven when you're coming in there. Why?
[00:20:13] Speaker A: Did they ever think the mall was going to flood?
[00:20:17] Speaker B: No, but that's how they clean them. Like I used to think that, but now they. Yeah, I would watch them come in their hoses and they would rip.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: Cleaned them off.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: Yes. The hose it down and it goes down that drain and that's what they, they mop and they squeeze you down that drain. That's how they clean the floors. And you think about it, for as many people come in there. Yeah, of course you want to hose it all down.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: Yeah. But yeah, you can't don't bring that to the 21st century.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: No.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: And, like, there's a better way to clean.
[00:20:43] Speaker B: Make bathrooms more accessible. Don't put them in the whole back of the mall where you gotta, like, go on a 20 mile trek just to go pee. Like, you ever do that when somebody goes, man, I need to use the bathroom. You like? And you look at them like, you ever have somebody, a part of your group in the mall that say they gotta go pee? You just know. Yeah, we ain't about to see you for like 15 minutes. We ain't about to see you for a minute.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta. You do. Tell them, like, just meet me at the car, bro.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: You gotta look at it like, where is it? Man, you gotta go past GameStop. You gotta go down the escalator. You gotta go down to the right. Like, you had to go on a trek.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: And it was. You know what? It too. It was also usually in the hallway that the employees were down.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: You. You would be waiting in line in the same hallway that they punch in the time clock. Yes, it was the same hallway. It was this. People look at you too. When they come out. You just like, I'm just trying to pee. Like, I ain't even trying to be.
[00:21:33] Speaker A: You got to fix. You got to fix that.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: You can see they work meeting going on while you sit there. Like, all of the employees that work
[00:21:40] Speaker A: for the THC about to go on shift, so he got to go outside to the. To the big old times. You know what it was when you
[00:21:45] Speaker B: sitting there waiting to get into that bathroom, if there is a line, all you hear is the security guards of the mall back going down that hallway because their radios are sitting there.
What's your 20 like?
[00:21:59] Speaker A: But this you got.
You don't have faith. And you're getting. You're getting. What's that called? A little ptsd.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: I'm just saying.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Bathroom had to be a track. Yeah.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: I'm just saying, like, like, like if we're gonna. If we're gonna come into the mall, like, let's do some futuristic shit. Let's make a mall that. That makes us feel like we're. We could be about to move into it being 20, 30.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: Right. Not go back.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
Doesn't it feel like 1989? I already know what 89 felt like. 89 sucked. He said.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: At least that. Get the skill, we get some sliding doors.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Something like, just make me feel like I'm in here. Not that I'm just pushing or whatever. And like, man, I don't know did you shop?
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Did your mom had a shopping cart?
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Are you talking about the ones that had it to where you could put the kids in them? Yeah. And, and. But it had like an area to where you can put.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: That you bought. Yeah, oh, yeah. In fact, we had them that looked like animals. Yes. There was like a seal or a lion or something. And the kids push them around.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: All it was, all it was was ankle busters. That's what we called them because they ran all you. Anybody pushing them things, if you in front of them, you getting hit. You're getting hit with at least.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: I don't know why they made they. They. You should never have a car in that big of an area when that many people can be biggest.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Not that big.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: They're too huge.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: You don't need a seal. Life size seal cart.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: And it was always that awkward situation. You go to a spot and you got to leave that car out.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Outside. Yeah.
[00:23:26] Speaker A: Pull the kid out. Yeah. Leave your bag.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah. You ain't making it around all the, the, the shirts of the shirt racks and JCPenney. That ain't happening.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: That was the one thing about the mall. Man, those aisles were tight. Yeah, there was. There was no two people walking down one. If you was with somebody, you holding their hand behind you or in front of you. There was no walking beside each other. Not an inning. Not even in Foot Locker or Champs.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: I used to miss those little shirt racks, though, because them shirt racks had a center. Like, if you, if you could, you could. Like if you move the shirts, you can climb inside and push the shirts down. You just sitting in there, it's like your own little fork.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Because they had the metal. They had the metal beams that came to a cross and they had a little circle and you could. I swear they made them for kids when they built those. They said, some kid is gonna open these, open this.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: But it's open on the top.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it's open on top.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: And that's what, that's, that's why I had a disadvantage because my mom was a six footer.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Oh, so you could just peep over.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: Oh, man. You know what it's like to be sitting there thinking you getting away with something and have a hand come in and grab you by your ear and pull you out?
[00:24:27] Speaker A: That thing you needed, you needed to have the ones that had the display cover over it where they would sit, the little sign that would say like clearance around the whole thing.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: They did. But that, that top was glass.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: Oh, so you can still see.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it was Just sitting on the glass.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah, you couldn't escape.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: But that's what I'm thinking. Like, if they bring back these malls, I don't think it's. Don't. Don't bring in nostalgia. Make it make us feel like we progressing. Make us, like, make people feel like we're not trying to go back. Like, make us feel like we got something new. New ideas, new cool.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: You're cool with. If they do the same layout but just don't have the actual same wallpaper. Give me some new wallpaper. Give me some new floors. Yeah, it's 20, 21. Dog Bro said, don't give me the sliding doors.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: I think when the new generation is always going. But isn't it nostalgic? I think that's just a way of them saying we're lazy and we don't want to come up with.
That's what I think is saying when you. When. When they start. When. When the younger generation is using the word. If they're using the word nostalgic before us old people, that should be. Our word is nostalgic, not theirs.
If they start using that. That just. I think that's just a way to say that we're too lazy to come up with new shit. I.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: For once in my life, I think they're gonna do a good service to the mall. You got to like it's you if you want it, especially if you want it to last.
Like, there were certain malls growing up the way they built them.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: What's the attraction?
[00:25:49] Speaker A: Bring people see that in my job.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: I know, but see, that's what I'm saying, though. It's like, what would you like when you're saying that? Like, would. Like what. What would you like if they want to do it? Like, for me, that's what I. That's what I want to see. I want to find it.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: If they just made it 21st century. Because I've been. I've been to several shields, but the one they built here, that's unique.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Put something in it for me to go see. Yeah, Like Philadelphia. Not Philadelphia. Was it Philadelphia? No, it was. It was Pennsylvania, but Scranton. I went to their mall. Yeah. They had an aquarium inside the mall.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Like, give me reasons to come down that way. Not just because I want to spend money at the store. Them all from the office. Yes.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Steam. Steamtown. Steamtown Mall. Yep.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: They could have a.
I only had one mall that did this, but instead of that, that one area that did the. Like, the train.
See, you could do that. But it's through the whole mall. Where that's your way of transportation.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Now that's something different. Now that's something different.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: There you go. If you're making the mall, I just gave you a billion idea.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: Roller coaster.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Oh, roller coaster. Be dope.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Roller coaster.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: A roller coaster through the mall would be dope.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: Like Hawaii. Hawaii itself. Like the. I think it's Pearl Ridge Mall. They have what they call it a tram.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: Tran. Am a train.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Am a train. It's a train. It's like a subway train, but it's like a thing. But it goes from different sections of the mall.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: See, that's dope.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But, like, make me feel like I'm. I'm like, if I go back to the mall and it's a grand opening and I get bumped in the ankle by somebody with a seal cart, I'm gonna be mad as hell.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: These damn things, you're gonna be pissed if you see that card.
You ain't even gonna have time to get ankle big. You gonna see it.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: I'm gonna be like, who the hell found them? Like, whoever. When. When we got rid of the older malls. We try to get rid of those. Somebody went out and found.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: Somebody went and stocked them up.
Somebody polished them up and said, these are new.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Somebody found them in a junkyard out in Montana.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: We tried to get rid of them. Okay, he hit in the comments. Malls, they want to revamp them. What are things you would want? Or hit up THC and say, this is how we can make them more modernized. Roller coaster is a good idea. I think a train, literally, you get in train. Where you trying to go? Trying to go to the JCPenney side. All right, Hop on, train.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: Or how about, you know those. You know those walkways at the airports where you walk?
[00:28:21] Speaker A: Oh, those are so clutch.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: Now just imagine those at a mall when you trying to go to JCPenney to. To Macy's.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Oh, you could book it.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: I'd like gone.
Like, you could probably even make like this up. This the regular lane. This is another lane. Like you can.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: Then there's your.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: Yeah, so, you know, hey, this is. You don't have to worry about going around nobody. You could be like, no seal carts allowed.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: That would be dope.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. But you improve. What was what we complained about. You take it and you go. You know what? If you can make it clutch to
[00:28:50] Speaker A: go back and forth anybody list. We just gave y' all three ideas. Roller coaster. Actually, four. Roller coaster. Aquarium, the speed walks from the airport. Or a train. Yep, you do that. You set? I think you should do two. I think the two you should do is roller coaster and the airport ones.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: The. The walk.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: Yeah, bro. Man, People be. You know how many. Even old people would be able to be like, oh, yeah, I'll come see on the other side and make it
[00:29:15] Speaker B: to where it's on. Like, on the outside of the mall, but it's covered. Yes. So, like, if they're. If they're doing their walks, they can walk on the outside, but they don't got to get rained on or something. Like, I mean, but make it look future. Like, make me feel like I'm in 2026.
[00:29:28] Speaker A: That's fair. That's fair. What about those VR.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: The VR arcades? Have you seen those? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are like. That's one that makes me feel like, okay, we're in the future because they got goggles on and they're playing tennis or something. Yeah, exactly. But see, and that's. That's what they need to have more of. Right.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: They should have an arcade area that's just VR in the mall. So if you want to go play, your machine is through the VR goggles. So you don't got to worry about actually having the equipment. And then you could have it be only 25 cents.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: I'm tell you right now. There's somebody sitting down right now making a mall for VR goggles. You just gonna put your VR goggles on and go to a mall?
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Well, they still better have that damn roller coaster in there. It is better than I. I don't want to be in VR with nostalgia. That will be stupid, Rob. I don't want to be in VR. And you take me back to 2000.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: They talking like, they're talking about making a mall, a virtual mall that you visit with the Oculus, right? You put it on, you start going, and you sit there, and you are greeted by somebody else who is in there not with their avatar, but it's an actual person you're talking to. And then they ask you. They're like, what do you. What you looking for? You know, and it's like, oh, I'm looking for a car. I'm looking for furniture. I'm looking for this. The mall in the virtual world is broke up on different islands. So, like, this island has this. This island has this. This island has cars. This island has furniture. So in the virtual world, they're like, do you want to just be transferred over there, or do you want to take the helicopter? Or do you want to take the jet pack? Or do you want to take the boat? Or do you want to take the submarine? Or do you want to take. You can take. Because you're in the virtual world. So any way to travel to any place you want to go to, even the food court was its own island.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Island. Well, you got to. You don't have a lot of food.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: And a lot of people would say. A lot of people would say it too. It's like how you supposed to eat in a virtual world? You can't order McDonald's. Sure you can. It comes to your door.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: Never say never.
[00:31:19] Speaker B: I'm just saying, like, that's where I think a future mall is going to be. I don't think it's going to be something that's going to be, like, physical.
[00:31:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: I think they're gonna make it straight up inside them. Inside virtual reality.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Well, in that case, then you can have everything.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: Everything.
But I mean, if you could make one like that today, like. Yeah. Make us make it feel like it's now and not 1991 and 1986.
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[00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah, come back again, dude.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: I should have just said, just go. Go to YouTube if you want to talk.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Come back again.
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